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The Noob Jounin
Gender : Number of posts : 151 Village : Sunagakure Registration date : 2014-02-19
| Subject: Rolling Mist Replacement 4/18/2014, 10:57 am | |
| Guide for Starting a Conflict Resolution Topic Members Involved: Letony Konowari, Empty Tree, Mouse Link to the topic: https://narutouzumaki-rpg.forumotion.com/t1298-rolling-mist#11357Relevant Posts: Letony's - Spoiler:
Admittedly it had been a while since Letony traveled through the Land of Fire. He didn’t know exactly what to expect from a nation beyond the Wind Country because it had been a while since he’d traveled here. He knew for a fact that this was the place that the Uchiha originated, and those he did not like in the slightest. In fact, he hated mostly everyone that didn’t originate from his own land, and even then he only liked those from his clan, and a few from his own village. A simple transformation technique via a hand seal as he traversed the desert sand beguiled him a new appearance unlike his natural self. Rather he would take the appearance of an Uchiha clan member himself, creating a cloak with the said clan’s symbol on his back. He walked slowly, his sensory innately active and scanning the area around him for a hundred meters in distance. With this he noticed a few different chakra signatures as he entered the Land of Fire officially. There were two chakra signatures. They both seemed to possess the elemental affinity for water, and only one held another nature which was wind like his own. In fact, it seemed one of them possessed both the chakra natures he had himself. Whether they could figure this out or not was irrelevant. Letony’s gluttonous mind filled with random anger. This was him naturally, and naturally his transformation was completed with a head band of a leaf shinobi. Tracking the individuals at an angle he managed to approach between them and their destination some hundred meters out ahead of them. If either of them were sensors they would readily identify his presence, and that would be all they could identify save for his elemental natures if their sensory capability was anything like his own.
Moving forward toward the two individuals, who seemed to move in unison albeit apart, a forested arena causing him to leap from branch to branch utilizing chakra control at its most rudimentary level, Letony would come within 34 meters just ahead of them to block their path. Forming four hand seals, his body would immediately disperse into blades of wind, which shot off at the two disguised individuals which he tracked via his sensory prowess. The blades were many in number, and if they were not careful they would be easily sliced into mincemeat if they couldn’t dodge or block the blades effectively. Letony would move forward ten meters upon the completion of his attack, bent on discovering more about these individuals who he happened upon. He wanted to complete his mission with flawless victory, but these types of engagements never seemed to pan out as such. Completing his mission was the ultimate goal, and he had several missions he intended to complete on this journey, hopefully this would be the second. The third would come once he reached the village of Konohagakure, which he would need to check his scroll once again to get the gist of the mission once more.
- Spoiler:
As Letony traveled in his enemies direction he noticed a significant spike in the chakra of one of the individuals which he tracked. Instantly as this spike in chakra occurred it prompted Letony to complete a set of hand seals in rapid mastery succession as he traveled toward them. He did this even before he arrived within 45 meters of these individuals, his sensory range superior toward his incoming aggressor, and also much more refined. With his sensory he could feel the aggressor’s chakra flying in at him at a significantly rapid pace, but it was not quick enough to where Letony wouldn’t be able to complete his prior hand signs. There were many smashed branches all around him, making his next action accessible. The chakra enhanced punch would hit its perceived target physical contact and blood drawn, as the real Letony continued on toward his location just 34 meters from the other individual. The punch would indeed blow a hole through Letony’s replacement object, which just so happened to be a downed branch, however due to his usage of the Body Replacement technique Letony proceeded onward with his actions unimpeded reaching the 34 meters as stated prior whilst his enemy was preoccupied with the Body Replacement. Even so, Letony felt it not in his interest to ignore the fellow behind him, even as he completed his set of four hand seals, and cast his Genjutsu accordingly immediately after the punch occurred leaving his opponent to lose sight of him.
The women would roll to dodge the perceived wind blades which came at her, however the true nature of the attack lied in Genjutsu, and she was trapped having witnessed the wind blades, and evading them as though they were real. She would remain stationary, her mind transported toward another dimension in complete darkness save for a 50ft Goddess avatar of Maya glaring her directly in the eyes and freezing any outward movement she would attempt. This women was trapped in his Genjutsu, and paralyzed unable to move or do anything until it was released, which would be a challenge in of itself with only the other Shinobi as back up. Immediately following the four seals, Letony did not stop completing seals and created five additional seals at the speed of a Ninjutsu master activating his clan’s special ability, and creating an instant cloak of Wind Release chakra around his body. In his mind Letony decided that the man who attacked his body replacement wasn’t the only one capable of tier two speed. His Razor Armor now gave him that capability as well as a significant defensive boost. The proposed initial wind blades would also travel toward the attacking individual as he finished blowing a hole in the false intercepted Letony before he reached his 34 meter distance from the other shinobi in disguise. That individual would also be rendered at the mercy of his clan’s signature Genjutsu. As for the women, Letony would move with the slightest flick of his wrist sending an S-Rank Kinjutsu blade of compressed wind release directly at the women’s neck in a horizontal fashion, attempting to behead the Genjutsu trapped women.
The thoughts flowing through Letony’s head were that of pent up aggression, he would definitely kill these two shinobi for their transgression. He still remained in his guise as an Uchiha from the leaf village, but due to the angle at which he was attacked they would not be able to realize the Uchiha clan symbol on his back until he went pass. With his sensory, it was easy to also target the first attacker, arching his arm behind him, he sent a massive blade of wind release at his other opponent whom was probably now under the effect of his Genjutsu as well aiming directly to behind the man from the neck.
The Shapeshifting Technique of EmptyTree's - Spoiler:
It hadn't been hard for Kisei to sneak off the boat undetected. Or at least he thought he was undetected. He managed to be spotted by a little rodent on the way off the boat. Cleverly disguised herself... It was impressive to say the least. He was never the best at suppressing himself, but he still have basic ability at it. And to outmatch the Mizukage was impressive to say the least. A little bit of respect was gained for her as she found him and followed along. She didn't exactly say she was following him or make it known, but he had just barely spotted her in disguise after leaving the boat, and it was obvious she noticed him as well. And thus it was safe to assume he was being tailed. Either way it didn't matter too much. She would hopefully be on his side in this, being sent on the same mission he was. Entering to the Land of Fire, he didn't take much time before simply making his way deeper into the country, aiming to reach Konoha as soon as he possibly could. It might have been him just having cold feet, but he wanted to test his own physical combat skills once again. This would be the best place to see if they've rusted since he last used them on that island. And finding a nice little genin to abduct would be nice as well.
And with that he set off towards the village.
- Spoiler:
Kisei grimaced at the new feelings and information he received. Someone was coming towards them, off to the side and in the forest. They would have to be stopped and apprehended. Perhaps he could harvest something from them? It would certainly be nice. When the man had come into Kisei's sensory bubble, it would be simply a question of how long the foreign shinobi could distract him, rather than if he could be defeated or not. Should he have been killed here it would only be a slight inconvenience for his death, it was the safety of his allies he was more worried about. They would be more valuable to him that any clone or corpse or rare bloodline he could gain. It would be nice to get everything, but the Mizukage wasn't about to sacrifice his pawns without a strong fight. He couldn't afford to lose any more children that had trusted him. He didn't want to mess up again.
Once the man had entered Kisei's sensory range, or as he liked to call it, his 'Sensory Bubble' it would be simply a instant reaction. One that he didn't even think about before his body started moving, as if it was muscle memory. It had been a long time since something like this happened, and he was surprised it came so naturally to him. His blood began pumping through his body at an increased rate, chakra flowing through each vein and artery at such an increased and violent pace that he didn't need to rely on his nerves any longer, the chakra in his blood allowing him to react in an almost inhuman way. It only took one step to achieve his full speed, moving at a rate that some of the lesser minded would call the 'second tier'. It was such a silly way to look at such a thing like that, to divide reactions and nerves into simple little groups... It was nice for fools to simplify everything, but just irritating to those who would attempt to explain everything in ways that were easily understood. Before the man could reach forty five meters towards Kiseichu's original location, Kisei would have already sped to the man in such a blur that it wasn't even able for him to comprehend unless his senses were inhuman, beyond even Kisei's. The speed at witch he moved would allow him to directly avoid destroying or getting caught in any branch, using his speed to strike before any leave would be shaken from it's branch -Moving faster than sound would even be able to travel. On the blurry travel towards the man he had reached to the pouch in his side, a little satchel he kept his medical equipment in. A single syringe was kept in his left hand. This would be the weapon that would eventually incapacitate this fool to come near him. With his right fist raised, chakra was instantly brought to his hand as it would move to collide with the other man's face, it would snap out on contact and amplify his already impressive strength by such a degree that it would let his fist smash and put a bloody hole in almost any substance, completely collapsing it if it wasn't made from a sturdy material. The man's chest was a unsturdy target, as his ribs and organs would be turned into jelly should his fist made even the slightest contact. This was only increased by the speed he was moving, faster than the eye could comprehend or sound could travel. His fist was moving at the same speed, with enough force to demolish a concrete building.
This should be enough to stop the shinobi from reporting his presence. Hopefully.
- Spoiler:
Kisei's right fist made connection with the assumed Leaf Ninja's chest, the sheer force of impact turning the man's ribs into a shattered mess, going right through them and shaking the organs up with an inhuman force. The sheer might of his strength and chakra was enough to collapse both lungs, and temporarily stop his heart. And then completely stop it, as the force of his fist turned it into jelly after the push. After first contact of the fist, the other shinobi's chest was pushed back, all the man's limbs flying forward from the momentum he had built up while he chest stopped, then turning in backwards. In the short movements of the man's organs being destroyed, the skin and bones would give way completely, Kiseichu's fist entering through the front of the man's chest. Giving away from the immense force, every inch of the man's body would be pulverized as the fist went through it, what was left of the heart being pushed back out the other side of the man's chest. This of course didn't happen before the fist would hit the spine, blowing a hole right through it and snapping it as if it were a piece of string. With this, Kiseichu's fist went through the other side and threw a mass of gooey blood and organs several dozen meters in the other direction.
This was very unexpected. Was he really this strong? It came by complete surprise and he had no idea it would even have happened. How was it even possible to have this amount of force? It was just... He would have to watch out and never use this technique again. Too powerful. Too messy. His entire arm was covered in blood and bits of bones. After his fist came out through the other end the man's bod would just give way, the breaking of the spine allowing his body to tear into two pieces - The upper chest and head and what was below. The second fell out and went below him, spraying blood all over the surrounding area and Kisei himself. This would be... A pain. One of the man's popped lungs had even attached itself to his arm by some unknown means. The rest of the man - The head and upper torso ended up smacking right into Kisei's own chest and body, surprising him further and almost causing him to loose his balance. He almost fell a few times, stumbling through the branching before coming to a stop. Chakra was lowered and the jutsu stopped. He didn't need or want to use it again. This was too much.
He just stopped as he hit the forest ground. Staring at the part of a corpse in his arms... It was surreal. He didn't even know how to think in that moment, staring into the blood soaked body and it's lifeless eyes. It had been so long since he had killed. Especially like this. And then he goes and does it two times in a week... It was just like before.
Just depressing. He set off again, walking carefully and keeping the corpse at his side.
246/306 CR remaining.
Mouse's - Spoiler:
As far as Mouse was concerned, the man was a 34 meters away. She had been intent on ignoring his presence in the hopes to avoid detection, however when he began to form handseals it dawned on Mouse. Sensor type. If he was a sensor type then the facade would be useless at this point. The man's hands were a blur. The Four hand seals came together faster than Mouse had ever beheld... but Mouse wasn't stupid. Mouse might not be able to reach him in the time it took to use his jutsu, Mouse might not have even been able to throw something to counter him in time for it take affect, but she could still move - those four hand seals in this case would be painfully slow... especially considering the 34 meters the jutsu would have to cross in order to reach Mouse. But that was if the man had even completed his jutsu. Letony didn't have any C rank jutsu that were also wind element - such a jutsu would require four seals - and B rank jutsus required 5 seals. For this reason, Letony would fail to complete his jutsu and Mouse's instinctive dodge roll which brought her safely into the cover of the forest that the fire country was known would be for nothing. Even had the jutsu in actualality been shot off - Mouse would still avoid it in the same manner. The jutsu if it even could be formed with only four seals would hit the spot where Mouse had been, and if not where she had been, it would be disrupted by the trees of the forest for she easily had rolled into the forest's protection. Mouse was safe.
Mouse on the other hand, had managed to avoid getting stuck in the bushes, and had not collided with anything to impede her movement. She began to run. Her hands humbly formed the 3 seals necessary for a D rank jutsu. Chakra filled her limbs and the wind blew past her face. She would not run into trees or bushes, and she would move in such a way that she could obtain the most swiftness possible whilst remaining unharmed. Her movement speed was at Tier one, if one would call it that - such a feat belonged to the Body Flicker technique. Of course, the jounin could try and follow her or even attack her - but with mizukage's attack coming down on him it would be a difficult feat for him to achieve. LEave yourself open to go after a genin? When a kage is attacking you? It would be a stupid move. Thus Mouse escaped. Relevant Issue: The usage and implementation of the Body Replacement Technique. Problem(s): EmptyTree has taken it upon himself to justify an illegitimate hit call. Suggested Solution: Due to the nature of the Body Replacement Letony avoids the hit, and continues forward with his actions. Staff Handling: The Queen, Jushiro, Temp can also throw his two cents in though, due to bias and wanting the site to die I would like Queen to make the final call as he is the one who gave ET the confidence to do this. | |
| | | The Noob Jounin
Gender : Number of posts : 151 Village : Sunagakure Registration date : 2014-02-19
| Subject: Re: Rolling Mist Replacement 4/18/2014, 11:30 am | |
| Primarily Information Guide Name: Letony Konowari Post(s) In Question: - Letony's Usage of Body Repacement:
- The Noob wrote:
- [Hold it there Mouse.]
As Letony traveled in his enemies direction he noticed a significant spike in the chakra of one of the individuals which he tracked. Instantly as this spike in chakra occurred it prompted Letony to complete a set of hand seals in rapid mastery succession as he traveled toward them. He did this even before he arrived within 45 meters of these individuals, his sensory range superior toward his incoming aggressor, and also much more refined. With his sensory he could feel the aggressor’s chakra flying in at him at a significantly rapid pace, but it was not quick enough to where Letony wouldn’t be able to complete his prior hand signs. There were many smashed branches all around him, making his next action accessible. The chakra enhanced punch would hit its perceived target physical contact and blood drawn, as the real Letony continued on toward his location just 34 meters from the other individual. The punch would indeed blow a hole through Letony’s replacement object, which just so happened to be a downed branch, however due to his usage of the Body Replacement technique Letony proceeded onward with his actions unimpeded reaching the 34 meters as stated prior whilst his enemy was preoccupied with the Body Replacement. Even so, Letony felt it not in his interest to ignore the fellow behind him, even as he completed his set of four hand seals, and cast his Genjutsu accordingly immediately after the punch occurred leaving his opponent to lose sight of him.
The women would roll to dodge the perceived wind blades which came at her, however the true nature of the attack lied in Genjutsu, and she was trapped having witnessed the wind blades, and evading them as though they were real. She would remain stationary, her mind transported toward another dimension in complete darkness save for a 50ft Goddess avatar of Maya glaring her directly in the eyes and freezing any outward movement she would attempt. This women was trapped in his Genjutsu, and paralyzed unable to move or do anything until it was released, which would be a challenge in of itself with only the other Shinobi as back up. Immediately following the four seals, Letony did not stop completing seals and created five additional seals at the speed of a Ninjutsu master activating his clan’s special ability, and creating an instant cloak of Wind Release chakra around his body. In his mind Letony decided that the man who attacked his body replacement wasn’t the only one capable of tier two speed. His Razor Armor now gave him that capability as well as a significant defensive boost. The proposed initial wind blades would also travel toward the attacking individual as he finished blowing a hole in the false intercepted Letony before he reached his 34 meter distance from the other shinobi in disguise. That individual would also be rendered at the mercy of his clan’s signature Genjutsu. As for the women, Letony would move with the slightest flick of his wrist sending an S-Rank Kinjutsu blade of compressed wind release directly at the women’s neck in a horizontal fashion, attempting to behead the Genjutsu trapped women.
The thoughts flowing through Letony’s head were that of pent up aggression, he would definitely kill these two shinobi for their transgression. He still remained in his guise as an Uchiha from the leaf village, but due to the angle at which he was attacked they would not be able to realize the Uchiha clan symbol on his back until he went pass. With his sensory, it was easy to also target the first attacker, arching his arm behind him, he sent a massive blade of wind release at his other opponent whom was probably now under the effect of his Genjutsu as well aiming directly to behind the man from the neck.
Suggested Solution: The hit misses as Letony was replaced using the Body Replacement Technique Jutsu's Preformed:1. Body Replacement 2. Binding Death Blades 3. Razor Armor Statement of Facts: 1. Letony tracks ET, and Mouse from 100 meters in distance at an angle using Generic Sensory. 2. Letony approaches between the targets, and their destination. 3. Letony reacts to ET's usage of a massive amount of chakra creating the hand signs for the Body Replacement as a result. 4. ET attacks the Body Replacement 5. Letony continues forward to reach 34m in distance from Mouse 6. Letony uses the Binding Death Blades technique catching Mouse in his Genjutsu 7. Letony uses his Razor Armor and attacks Mouse as well as ET who is behind him. Statement of Conflict: The conflict here is ET believing that because he moves at Tier 2 speeds in his attack, the Body Replacement technique is not fast enough for Letony to replace himself. The problem with this is that Letony performs the Body Replacement well before the attack lands, and thus Letony replaced himself ahead of time, and his attack will miss because Letony swapped himself out with an object described in the given environment. ET also seems to think that some type of preparation is necessary for the Body Replacement, however as proved by the Manga page below that is false. Points: - The spike in chakra detected by Sensor Letony wrote:
- It had been a long time since something like this happened, and he was surprised it came so naturally to him. His blood began pumping through his body at an increased rate, chakra flowing through each vein and artery at such an increased and violent pace that he didn't need to rely on his nerves any longer, the chakra in his blood allowing him to react in an almost inhuman way.
- The described timing of ET's shapeshifting's movement wrote:
- Before the man could reach forty five meters towards Kiseichu's original location, Kisei would have already sped to the man in such a blur that it wasn't even able for him to comprehend unless his senses were inhuman, beyond even Kisei's.
- Letony creates hand signs for the Body Replacement wrote:
- Instantly as this spike in chakra occurred it prompted Letony to complete a set of hand seals in rapid mastery succession as he traveled toward them. He did this even before he arrived within 45 meters of these individuals, his sensory range superior toward his incoming aggressor, and also much more refined.
- The correct usage of the Body Replacement wrote:
- With his sensory he could feel the aggressor’s chakra flying in at him at a significantly rapid pace, but it was not quick enough to where Letony wouldn’t be able to complete his prior hand signs. There were many smashed branches all around him, making his next action accessible. The chakra enhanced punch would hit its perceived target physical contact and blood drawn, as the real Letony continued on toward his location just 34 meters from the other individual. The punch would indeed blow a hole through Letony’s replacement object, which just so happened to be a downed branch, however due to his usage of the Body Replacement technique Letony proceeded onward with his actions unimpeded reaching the 34 meters as stated prior whilst his enemy was preoccupied with the Body Replacement.
Anything else: Since the body replacement was used well in advance of the purposed Hit, EmptyTree has no case to call this hit. Also below I will site a page from the Manga proving the correct usage of the Body Replacement. Regardless of Tier 2 speed, my timing makes his speed irrelevant as my jutsu was performed prior to his attack and set up well in advance. I have no idea why he listens to Temp who gives no evidence, and does not use logic correctly in this instance. Supporting Evidence: | |
| | | Mouse Genin
Gender : Number of posts : 66 Registration date : 2014-03-06
| Subject: Re: Rolling Mist Replacement 4/18/2014, 11:46 am | |
| center] Rebuttal[/center] Rebuttal To Whom: The Noob Points:1. Points 5, 6, and seven are not relevant to the issue of this conflict resolution. Evidence: - Quote :
Relevant Issue: The usage and implementation of the Body Replacement Technique.
- Quote :
- Problem(s): EmptyTree has taken it upon himself to justify an illegitimate hit call.
Anything else: Due to events pending, I feel that Queen and Jushiro have a Konoha bias; As this call will directly affect Konoha positively or negatively [and both have characters in that village], I therefore request for Temp to be the one to administer this case. | |
| | | EmptyTree Mizukage
Gender : Number of posts : 189 Age : 26 Village : Kirigakure no Sato Registration date : 2014-02-17
Ninja Profile Jutsus: Alliegance: Kirigakure Elemental Mastery: Suiton/Futon
| Subject: Re: Rolling Mist Replacement 4/18/2014, 12:31 pm | |
| Primarily Information Guide Name: Kiseichu Cheirourgiki Post(s) In Question: - Letony's Usage of Body Repacement::
[Hold it there Mouse.]
As Letony traveled in his enemies direction he noticed a significant spike in the chakra of one of the individuals which he tracked. Instantly as this spike in chakra occurred it prompted Letony to complete a set of hand seals in rapid mastery succession as he traveled toward them. He did this even before he arrived within 45 meters of these individuals, his sensory range superior toward his incoming aggressor, and also much more refined. With his sensory he could feel the aggressor’s chakra flying in at him at a significantly rapid pace, but it was not quick enough to where Letony wouldn’t be able to complete his prior hand signs. There were many smashed branches all around him, making his next action accessible. The chakra enhanced punch would hit its perceived target physical contact and blood drawn, as the real Letony continued on toward his location just 34 meters from the other individual. The punch would indeed blow a hole through Letony’s replacement object, which just so happened to be a downed branch, however due to his usage of the Body Replacement technique Letony proceeded onward with his actions unimpeded reaching the 34 meters as stated prior whilst his enemy was preoccupied with the Body Replacement. Even so, Letony felt it not in his interest to ignore the fellow behind him, even as he completed his set of four hand seals, and cast his Genjutsu accordingly immediately after the punch occurred leaving his opponent to lose sight of him.
The women would roll to dodge the perceived wind blades which came at her, however the true nature of the attack lied in Genjutsu, and she was trapped having witnessed the wind blades, and evading them as though they were real. She would remain stationary, her mind transported toward another dimension in complete darkness save for a 50ft Goddess avatar of Maya glaring her directly in the eyes and freezing any outward movement she would attempt. This women was trapped in his Genjutsu, and paralyzed unable to move or do anything until it was released, which would be a challenge in of itself with only the other Shinobi as back up. Immediately following the four seals, Letony did not stop completing seals and created five additional seals at the speed of a Ninjutsu master activating his clan’s special ability, and creating an instant cloak of Wind Release chakra around his body. In his mind Letony decided that the man who attacked his body replacement wasn’t the only one capable of tier two speed. His Razor Armor now gave him that capability as well as a significant defensive boost. The proposed initial wind blades would also travel toward the attacking individual as he finished blowing a hole in the false intercepted Letony before he reached his 34 meter distance from the other shinobi in disguise. That individual would also be rendered at the mercy of his clan’s signature Genjutsu. As for the women, Letony would move with the slightest flick of his wrist sending an S-Rank Kinjutsu blade of compressed wind release directly at the women’s neck in a horizontal fashion, attempting to behead the Genjutsu trapped women.
The thoughts flowing through Letony’s head were that of pent up aggression, he would definitely kill these two shinobi for their transgression. He still remained in his guise as an Uchiha from the leaf village, but due to the angle at which he was attacked they would not be able to realize the Uchiha clan symbol on his back until he went pass. With his sensory, it was easy to also target the first attacker, arching his arm behind him, he sent a massive blade of wind release at his other opponent whom was probably now under the effect of his Genjutsu as well aiming directly to behind the man from the neck.
Suggested Solution: Letony dies. Kaz is put in Bad Standing Jutsu's Preformed: 1: Increased Hydraulics 2: Chakra Enhanced Strength Statement of Facts:1: Kiseichu and Mouse attempt to pass through the Land of Fire 2: Letony tracks Kiseichu and Mouse from 100 meters in distance at an angle using Generic Sensory. 3: Kiseichu senses Letony as he reaches 50 meters in distance. 4: Kiseichu uses Increased Hydraulics and CES when he hits 45 5: Kiseichu rushes at Letony 6: Kiseichu punches Letony through the chest. Statement of Conflict: Kaz expecting that Body Replacement Technique works in a way that it doesn't. Points:- Kiseichu moves at Tier 2 - Spoiler:
It had been a long time since something like this happened, and he was surprised it came so naturally to him. His blood began pumping through his body at an increased rate, chakra flowing through each vein and artery at such an increased and violent pace that he didn't need to rely on his nerves any longer, the chakra in his blood allowing him to react in an almost inhuman way. It only took one step to achieve his full speed, moving at a rate that some of the lesser minded would call the 'second tier'.
- Kiseichu reacts BEFORE Kaz reaches 45 meters - He attacks when Kaz is at 50 meters. - Spoiler:
Once the man had entered Kisei's sensory range, or as he liked to call it, his 'Sensory Bubble' it would be simply a instant reaction. One that he didn't even think about before his body started moving, as if it was muscle memory.
- Spoiler:
Before the man could reach forty five meters towards Kiseichu's original location, Kisei would have already sped to the man in such a blur that it wasn't even able for him to comprehend unless his senses were inhuman, beyond even Kisei's.
You need preparation time for Replacement Technique - Along with a distractions/lapse in attention. Letony has none of these. - Jushiro wrote:
- You do realize people have switched themselves with a dead rabbit before, right? I believe Zabusa did it. The size of the object shouldn't be that much of a big deal really. But what people need to make sure of, is that it was prepared before hand. The Jutsu is simple, but quite complex. Its all about misleading the opponent. Heck, remember Akamaru's exploding puppet trick? That is simply a Kawarimi Jutsu. The object(s) this time round being Kunai blades laced with exploding tags.
But to make it clear. Its not FTG or anywhere near it. Its not even Shunshin speed if you really think about it. But it may seem like it, especially if the person using it is well prepared. Anything else: Kaz has been in a conflict res thread in every fight he's been in. This isn't something that should exactly be overlooked by mods. As well as I reject him choosing mods from Konoha, those who would be biased to side with him and not allowing Temp. I ask that Temp is the one who decides this. | |
| | | The Noob Jounin
Gender : Number of posts : 151 Village : Sunagakure Registration date : 2014-02-19
| Subject: Re: Rolling Mist Replacement 4/18/2014, 1:27 pm | |
| Rebuttal Rebuttal To Whom: Emptytree Points: First lets have a look at the Technique utilized by EmptyTree, as he performed NO HAND SIGNS which is required for all jutsu CLASSIFIED as NINJUTSU. - Quote :
- Name: Increased Hydraulics
Rank: S Range: Self Type: Ninjutsu/Ijutsu Handsigns: Hare - Boar - Dog/None Description: Using chakra to alter the flow of blood and muscles, it allows the user increased use of muscles as well as pumping blood much faster, giving the user a slight blue tint to their skin due to the aura of the chakra running through their veins. This grants tier 2 speed. Now the above is classified as a Ninjutsu before even being classified as an Iijutsu, making it require the usage of hand seals to perform. These hand seals are void of ET's post, and thus his performance of this technique is VOID. Also, regarding medical ninjutsu it is blatantly unfair, and stated as I quote - Quote :
- Hashirama Senju could use medical ninjutsu with such proficiency that he could heal himself without the need of forming hand seals, a feat initially believed to be impossible even for Tsunade, though she's able to replicate it through the use of her Strength of a Hundred Technique.[3][4]
The fact that Medical Ninjutsu can be performed on this site without hand signs is completely False, and Blatantly goes against what's been stated as FACT from the show we derive our RP from. Not only does this grant EVERY medical ninjutsu user HASHIRAMA SENJU's power, but it also creates IMBALANCES as SEEN in the above situation. BUT even so ET's jutsu is CLASSIFIED firstly as a NINJUTSU and thus the NINJUTSU RULES apply. It also even states the given hand seals for the technique's usage. - Quote :
- - Kiseichu reacts BEFORE Kaz reaches 45 meters - He attacks when Kaz is at 50 meters.
Now this may be true but the fact remains that Letony's sensory range is 100 meters, and your spike in chakra takes time in of itself. Letony is also a Master in Ninjutsu, and you are only a Specialist in Taijutsu making my technique faster than you can even hit me as stated in the rules of the site regardless of Tier 2 speed. - Quote :
- Benefits:
Hand sign speed is fast with ninjutsu, able to complete a jutsu with 10 or less handsigns before a punch can be thrown. Able to discern what elemental type of ninjutsu is, when 3 or more hand signs are presented, and act accordingly and complete a jutsu with 5 or less handsigns before someone with a specialty can complete there's. Ninjutsu S rank and under are consider 1/2 less when determining cost, and B rank and under are 1/4 the cost. Can either use S-rank Kinjutsu or S-Rank Factor At this level, a master can have 4 shadow clones in play. Each clone is 1/2 the power of the original. They last for a maximum of 18 posts outside of the user's land and can not use S-Rank Factor or S-rank Kinjutsu ninjutsu. As if this were not enough, my post clearly places my actions as your spike in chakra occurs and, DO NOT FORGET you have to actually TRAVERSE the DISTANCE before you reach me which also TAKES TIME as well despite your tier 2 speed. And as I finish refuting this I will leave off with quotes from my post indicating the timing, I hate repeating myself but when you're playing with stupid this needs to happen. - Quote :
- Instantly as this spike in chakra occurred it prompted Letony to complete a set of hand seals in rapid mastery succession as he traveled toward them. He did this even before he arrived within 45 meters of these individuals, his sensory range superior toward his incoming aggressor, and also much more refined.
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- You need preparation time for Replacement Technique - Along with a distractions/lapse in attention. Letony has none of these.
The video, as well as the Manga page I used as my supporting evidence refutes this quote. Sakura clearly had no time to prepare or do any type of distraction in her implementation of the Body Replacement Technique as shown with evidence above. Not only that, but the Technique itself which is listed in the First Naruto Databook, created by the writer himself, does not state that any type of preparation is necessary thus making your point void of legitimacy and false in essence. You have no point there or any evidence to support that claim. Quoting Jushiro is also not evidence, and is only speculation which cannot be proven, and thus I rest my case. Evidence: Listed Above. Anything else: I don't understand how having Conflict Resolution places me in Bad Standing, as this is the purpose when situations like these arise. I tend to engage in combat a lot, so that is no justification for placing me in bad standing. | |
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| Subject: Re: Rolling Mist Replacement 4/18/2014, 3:15 pm | |
| Name: Tee All Members have made there first post: Obv Targeted Solution: Kaz hit by the technique on the basis that the sub jutsu was performed incorrectly. Evidence: [quote]The mechanics of the Jutsu. From what I know, you simply find or procreate the object that you wanna swap with. Once the Jutsu is performed, the user will have the Object take on their appearance, while they slip away. - Juicy wrote:
1. Hand seals are formed, for the purposes of the site's rules. 2. Swap your body with the object. 3. It can be prepared in advanced, or on the go. See the Manga and anime for this. Kage immediately swapped his body with Naruto's clone and escaped being hit. 4. It allows you to either flee or buy some time for another attack. Or to even attack. So the post delay aint necessary. These are Juicy's words and thus im using his take on the tech as a basis for the techs usage since there are no Official rules on it. - Kaz wrote:
- There were many smashed branches all around him, making his next action accessible. The chakra enhanced punch would hit its perceived target physical contact and blood drawn, as the real Letony continued on toward his location just 34 meters from the other individual. The punch would indeed blow a hole through Letony’s replacement object, which just so happened to be a downed branch, however due to his usage of the Body Replacement technique Letony proceeded onward with his actions unimpeded reaching the 34 meters as stated prior whilst his enemy was preoccupied with the Body Replacement. Even so, Letony felt it not in his interest to ignore the fellow behind him, even as he completed his set of four hand seals, and cast his Genjutsu accordingly immediately after the punch occurred leaving his opponent to lose sight of him.
Open Dialogue: All Kaz stated was that branches were around him, as per the substitution guidelines above you have to prepare either ahead of time or on the go neither of which was done by Kaz, he merely stated the branches existence otherwise he would have substituted. Anything else:Rebuttal above is invalid, rebuttals are for AFTER the staff member posts, and anything not put in the previous points is ignored and the points and the basis of the topic which is the usage of the log tech is focused upon. Final Thoughts: | |
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| Subject: Re: Rolling Mist Replacement 4/19/2014, 3:08 pm | |
| Kay, so I'm going to rule on this nao. All non-conflict attention whore posts have been deleted. | |
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| Subject: Re: Rolling Mist Replacement 4/19/2014, 3:57 pm | |
| Name: Lokifur-kun All Members have made there first post: Ya Targeted Solution: Kazumi is dead and put in bad standing for manipulating/plotting with folk along with metagaming/autohitting. Evidence: - Quote :
- 4. ET attacks the Body Replacement
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- It was an ancient ninja art revolving around misdirection and the split-second timing of a switch between a 'body' and a location, or between two or more bodies: A technique utilised by ninja in ancient Japan, involving the ninja and anything that can be mistaken for them, (such as a dummy or a mannequin). As it means "a quick shift in position, or adaptability to changing circumstances", it is also utilised in Sumo.
Open Dialogue: Kay, let's start with your quote here. First of all, the Body Replacement technique isn't controlling your opponent through magic. It uses misdirection. Have you read Kuroko no Basket? It's a manga that also uses misdirection. A person seems to "disappear", but they're just using a lapse in the opponent's attention. Why do you think that you can control this lapse in attention on a RP? What makes this different from an autohit? You don't get to pick how your opponent reacts to a simple academy technique that is no longer used in canon and relies on speed. By the time you'd have let your opponent get so close to you for you to switch, you'd already be hit. How can you possibly control the lapse in attention of your opponent from such a close range when their speed is so superior to yours through a technique? Or, even with that technique not used...You purposely slow down to get yourself hit. You don't have the reaction speed for it even if you prepared beforehand. Anyway, my pictures. Notice how small in distance the replacements are? They don't cross 11 meters in distance. They're also tracked by both Zaku and Sasuke. You're not teleporting anywhere in an untrackable manner. You're moving around fast and maybe at tier 1 speed...In canon. Do you know what the name of this technique is called on the wiki? It's not just Replacement or Substitution. It's "Kawarimi". http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kawarimi Would you look at that...It's an actual phenomenon. IRL, people don't teleport. Do you think Sumo wrestlers teleport? Again, no. Now, look at the last picture. Notice how all of these ninja are watching Tobi-kun? They're so confused. How did Tobi-kun escape the bugs? It should be impossible with Teleportation Jutsu (also known as Replacement Jutsu you're using). Why, it's almost like the "Teleportation Jutsu"...Isn't actually capable of teleporting. It's just high speed movement. Tier 1 at best. It still wouldn't help you magically teleport with no description or autohit your opponent. Oh yes...And finally...Your jutsu also doesn't work because of the size of the thing you replaced with. You realize that it's an optical illusion jutsu, right? Most likely, the block of wood is transformed into a person with the jutsu, so to distract the opponent. A tiny branch can't be used for that purpose. Anyhow, Tree not using hand seals for his ijutsu with hand signs doesn't matter, as he still moved to punch you. Seeing how your Body Replacement failed completely, you're hit regardless of speed. I'd also like to think you wouldn't wanna depend on somebody not using hand seals to livez. Anything else: Nu. Final Thoughts: Where do you go off calling me bias and wanting to destroy the site? I've advertised in hundreds of places and I'm on 24/7. Queen and Juicy aren't. You're on Skype a lot with Queen and Juicy have known them for years. You're buddies with them. You like each other and respect each other. I respect nobody and think of everybody as equal in their fodder nature because nobody is worth my timez. Notice how Queen and Jushiro are the ones who have to be bias here because of their relations with you along with them being in Konoha. I coudn't care less what happens to you folk as a genin who is supposedly "out to destroy the site". You should also lose NP for calling me bias continually with no evidence, as the rules state. Supposedly, you're quitting though. | |
| | | Lilium
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| Subject: Re: Rolling Mist Replacement 4/21/2014, 11:59 pm | |
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Decisive Ruling Incoming. I'm sorry for stepping on toes, but here comes a hammer and a half.
After a long discussion with several moderators, it has come to the conclusion that this entire topic in itself is detrimental to the site. Therefore, I am stepping in, and putting in a firm ruling that I will fight to the grave with.
THIS TOPIC IS HEREBY FULLY VOIDED. Everyone is reset to their respective villages.
The following parties already received a light consequence: -- Mouse
The following parties will receive a major consequence: -- EmptyTree [-100NP, -20CR. Shapeshifting Clone no longer Existent.] -- The Noob [-100NP, -20CR. If does not post by this friday, removed from activity.]
If you wish to understand the reason for voiding please PM me privately. This is not a contestable ruling. Should I see any drama relating to this on the c-box or any other method of site communication, I will enact further punishment. Also do not try and go loophole around this judgement either.
Thank you for your patience and please claim all of the things related to you in the update. Simply link this post. Have a Nice day. -- Lilium | |
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