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PostSubject: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/4/2014, 5:38 pm

Guide for Starting a Conflict Resolution Topic

Members Involved: Tyko Ladon, The End
Link to the topic: https://narutouzumaki-rpg.forumotion.com/t1058-tyko-vs-the-end-champion-s-contest-mad-vs-the-maddest#8758
Relevant Posts:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Relevant Issue: The Wind Release Cutter Technique, due to the reduced Density of the Terra Release: Earth Commandment jutsu because of contact with the Density Release: Crush Technique, would cleave through the giant palms generated, cleaving his opponent in half due to ambiguity.
Problem(s):
The End wrote:
Both arms were 25 meters in width, 25 meters in height and harder than any diamond. Terra release naturally increased the affinity of the ground around it. All it needed was to be applied to the earth around the user. The boulders would do nothing but get caught by the hands of the boulders or equal force would completely negate both movements. Either way it didn't matter.
To begin, Terra Release does not increase the hardness of the earth in question as supported by this below.

Spoiler:

Secondly, not only does the Terra Release not increase hardness, but the Density Release: Crush transfers Density Release Chakra into the construct thus making it susceptible to having its Density altered at will. The moment the palm makes contact with the boulders it will become soft and fragile due to my clan's ability.
The End wrote:
Even the wind based jutsu that hit the left arm would mean nothing because of how much stronger Terra Release was. Not to mention the elemental affinity weakness being applied like this was fucking Pokemon. As the arms moved to stop the boulders Kaiser would do nothing but complete the hand signs for his next movement.

Continuing forward, now as stated above the moment contact is made the palms will become extremely fragile as that of Ice causing them to crumble under the force of the boulders. Not only this, but due to this frailness the Wind Release: Cutter Technique will easily slice through the left palm. With that said lets take a look at the relevant distances.

The End wrote:
As the context of the attack was noticed Kaiser would only make a cup like gesture with both hands. By touching his index finger tip to his thumb and a thought. The earth would open up beneath both Kaiser and his clone causing them to slip into the ground.‏

The hole was 2 meters deep but that was to avoid falling

The ground that was effected by Kaiser's chakra of a A level would give him footing, stopping his descent into the ground at one meter. Causing him to only be one meter into the ground while the clone moved the full two meters downward.‏

When Kaisers arms moved upward the ground would shoot upward at the boulders in the form of Kaisers arms. Giant hands emerged from the ground on both sides of Kaiser‏

The palms of the hands touched while the fingers stood up about 25 meters in height‏

Both arms were 25 meters in width, 25 meters in height‏

Sure the arms would eclipse the hole but Kasier could see chakra flow so that meant nothing
The End wrote:

So as a preparation he quickly weaved a few hand signs together. Causing a small puff of smoke to erupt. Creating one shadow clone in his likeness it went back to back with him.
ME wrote:
Aiming at the counter, Wind Release released through the use of these new hand seals a blade of wind creeping towards the shadow clone from affront in an instant once the boulder’s destinations were accomplished.
The End wrote:
Even the wind based jutsu that hit the left arm would mean nothing because of how much stronger Terra Release was.
His shadow clone is 2 meters below the ground, if the wind release hits the left hand, and he stated he was back to back with his clone, the wind release due to ambiguity will hit because the hands can't stop it, and his positioning relative to his clone supports this.

Suggested Solution: End's character is bisected by the Wind Cutter technique.
Staff Handling: Any
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/4/2014, 5:47 pm

Primarily Information Guide
Name: Tyko M. Ladon
Post(s) In Question: Already Listed
Suggested Solution: Already Listed
Jutsu's Preformed: Already Listed aside from End's which are as follows:
The End wrote:
Kaiser uses
Moving Earth Core
Earth bend lasts for 5 posts
Hide like a mole
Earth Breathing
Earth Hardening
Dojutsu still active

Clone uses

Earth Release: Tearing earth Turning Palm
Hide Like a mole
Earth breathing
Earth Hardening
Great fire annihilation
Earth Release: Underground Projection Fish Technique
Earth Spear
Dojutsu still active
Statement of Facts: 1. Tyko arrives via Flight Technique
2. Tyko creates hand signs for Density Release: Crush
3. Tyko activates Density Release Armour
4. Tyko creates hand signs for Wind Release: Cutter Technique (Anbu version) which activates once boulder's reach their accomplished destination
Statement of Conflict:The Wind Release Cutter Technique, due to the reduced Density of the Terra Release: Earth Commandment jutsu because of contact with the Density Release: Crush Technique, would cleave through the giant palms generated, cleaving his opponent in half due to ambiguity.
Points:
The End wrote:
Both arms were 25 meters in width, 25 meters in height and harder than any diamond. Terra release naturally increased the affinity of the ground around it. All it needed was to be applied to the earth around the user. The boulders would do nothing but get caught by the hands of the boulders or equal force would completely negate both movements. Either way it didn't matter.
  • To begin, Terra Release does not increase the hardness of the earth in question as supported by this below.


Spoiler:

  • Secondly, not only does the Terra Release not increase hardness, but the Density Release: Crush transfers Density Release Chakra into the construct thus making it susceptible to having its Density altered at will. The moment the palm makes contact with the boulders it will become soft and fragile due to my clan's ability.


The End wrote:
Even the wind based jutsu that hit the left arm would mean nothing because of how much stronger Terra Release was. Not to mention the elemental affinity weakness being applied like this was fucking Pokemon. As the arms moved to stop the boulders Kaiser would do nothing but complete the hand signs for his next movement.

  • Continuing forward, now as stated above the moment contact is made the palms will become extremely fragile as that of Ice causing them to crumble under the force of the boulders. Not only this, but due to this frailness the Wind Release: Cutter Technique will easily slice through the left palm. With that said lets take a look at the relevant distances.


The End wrote:
As the context of the attack was noticed Kaiser would only make a cup like gesture with both hands. By touching his index finger tip to his thumb and a thought. The earth would open up beneath both Kaiser and his clone causing them to slip into the ground.‏

The hole was 2 meters deep but that was to avoid falling

The ground that was effected by Kaiser's chakra of a A level would give him footing, stopping his descent into the ground at one meter. Causing him to only be one meter into the ground while the clone moved the full two meters downward.‏

When Kaisers arms moved upward the ground would shoot upward at the boulders in the form of Kaisers arms. Giant hands emerged from the ground on both sides of Kaiser‏

The palms of the hands touched while the fingers stood up about 25 meters in height‏

Both arms were 25 meters in width, 25 meters in height‏

Sure the arms would eclipse the hole but Kasier could see chakra flow so that meant nothing
The End wrote:

So as a preparation he quickly weaved a few hand signs together. Causing a small puff of smoke to erupt. Creating one shadow clone in his likeness it went back to back with him.
ME wrote:
Aiming at the counter, Wind Release released through the use of these new hand seals a blade of wind creeping towards the shadow clone from affront in an instant once the boulder’s destinations were accomplished.
The End wrote:
Even the wind based jutsu that hit the left arm would mean nothing because of how much stronger Terra Release was.
  • His shadow clone is 2 meters below the ground, if the wind release hits the left hand, and he stated he was back to back with his clone, the wind release due to ambiguity will hit because the hands can't stop it, and his positioning relative to his clone supports this.

Anything else:(Detail anyone else you wish to say here)
Supporting Evidence: All placed in spoilers and quotes above.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/4/2014, 6:25 pm

Rebuttal
Rebuttal To Whom: Tyko
Points:

1. So the density is automatically altered in the arms lolwut?
2. Btw if you read I ducked into the ground before the boulders could even hit the ground jackass. Your boulders were still falling. YOUR timing made the wind cutter come after the boulders. Because you activated density release armor THEN the cutter move. Also I question how you are above me yet the move materializes below you coming at a angle with no prior flight path? Kay.

You:
Quote :
Clearly his opponent would notice him, and the two massive boulder’s cast above each of them, and falling at a significant pace. In any event, if things were not in fact settled they could easily find themselves mushed like potatoes, albeit much more blood. 

These five signs in rapid succession continued into several more sets as the man prepared, activating his Density Release all throughout his body. If his opponent wasn’t familiar with this advanced nature, he would not know what affects they brought about. Aiming at the counter, Wind Release released through the use of these new hand seals a blade of wind creeping towards the shadow clone from affront in an instant once the boulder’s destinations were accomplished. Leaving nothing to doubt, Tyko roughly thirty-seven meters above his adversaries, which was actually a single person. Tyko would wait, and anticipate his opponent’s response, whilst steadily watching for his opportunity

Me:
Quote :
His opponent would need to be careful as the boulder could easily maybe even possibly kill him while trying to attack the two on the ground. Being a sizable distance above them the rocks would plummet to the ground below. Sad thing was their speed and weight meant nothing against the eyes that could see all. They would move in slow motion to him. This would give Kaiser and the clone so much time to react it was silly. As the context of the attack was noticed Kaiser would only make a cup like gesture with both hands. By touching his index finger tip to his thumb and a thought. The earth would open up beneath both Kaiser and his clone causing them to slip into the ground.

Attack evasion explanation: Not only would it make his initial attack worthless but it would make his counter useless also. The wind coming from the front of the clone was a counter measure that came from after the boulders would hit the ground. Kaiser's action was completed before the boulders even touched the ground.

It was an advanced way of using hiding like a mole. Kaiser in the right hole while the clone to the left. They would both slip into the earth below them like it was nothing. The hole was 2 meters deep but that was to avoid falling damage. Not that it mattered however. During the falling motion both would only activate the hiding like a mole technique while activation of earth breathing. A completion of the hand signs where nothing cause Kaiser gave both of them more than enough space to move around in these holes. Not to mention they wouldn't need to do a whole range of motions since the hand signs where few and they were masters of the art. They both knew exactly what needed to be done.


Oh lets not forget I EVEN EXPLAINED HOW I DODGED IT IN THE SPOILER WHAT?

3. Even if it slices through the hand, I had already dodged the attack before the hand even came up through the ground. Unless that windcutter digs through the ground this whole thing was pointless.

Evidence:https://narutouzumaki-rpg.forumotion.com/t1058-tyko-vs-the-end-champion-s-contest-mad-vs-the-maddest#8758

Anything else:

Also note if he increased the density of the hands they would be more than enough to withstand a B ranked attack. Not to mention Terra Release is held at a +1 Standard against other elements unless effected by electricity. Even still as pointed out above the attacks both of them as a matter of fact was already dodged before the arms came into play. Should the rock hit the ground NOTHING would happen because both had already dug into the ground. Not to mention if the density was transferred to the arms the boulders would only be halted by the arms or they would actually fall off to the sides altering their falling trajectory anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/4/2014, 6:27 pm

edit in: The arms came after I was already in the hole so note that also.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/4/2014, 7:40 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/7/2014, 9:39 pm

Not posting a rebuttal fyi I thought I made that clear on skype or otherwise but w/e Neutral 
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/15/2014, 1:31 am

PostSubject: Let's Go Fri 04 Apr 2014, 4:38 pm

That's when this was posted. It is now 4/15/2014...wtf is going on ?
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/15/2014, 9:35 am

Uh no one cares about a ooc fight thats what
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/15/2014, 12:22 pm

Don't matter..staff should do their job or quit
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/15/2014, 12:28 pm

If this is for that tourny rank list thingie mabob

Quote :
The fights are judged/decisions about the fight are voted on by your peers. There is no middle ground, your champions, for each conflict that arises over moves, only one can be right, and one can be wrong, majority rules baby.

Not staff's job GG.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/15/2014, 3:11 pm

Lilium wrote:
If this is for that tourny rank list thingie mabob

Quote :
The fights are judged/decisions about the fight are voted on by your peers. There is no middle ground, your champions, for each conflict that arises over moves, only one can be right, and one can be wrong, majority rules baby.

Not staff's job GG.

I told Nub Cakes here that and Temp told him to bring it here soooooo yea.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/15/2014, 3:12 pm

Lol didn't know this was a tourney fight lol..cause it isn't
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/15/2014, 3:17 pm

Quote :
Tyko vs The End (Champion's Contest) Mad vs the Maddest

Did you even read the title? Of course not silly me. Its a OOC tourney match This was stated at the beginning before we even fought. But you don't read nor listen.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/15/2014, 7:00 pm

We can clearly see who reads from the above lol
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/15/2014, 8:01 pm

Apparently you don't.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/16/2014, 7:02 am

To be perfectly fair, i believed that the words in the brackets were there to further hype up a topic title that was already hyped up by it's description.
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/16/2014, 9:18 am

Plus...it is in the tournament area....so it is obviously a tournament fight. DUH.

Apparently everyone except one person *cough*youknowwhoyouare*cough* is aware of this.


Either way, after reading the whole thing I think Geno is right.

+1 for Geno
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PostSubject: Re: Let's Go   Let's Go Empty4/16/2014, 11:47 am

It was a practice fight...and this amounts to nothing more than a popularity contest...so screw this idc anymore...What a dumb way to decide a hit call. I'll catch this nigga IC.
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